Did Ancient Egyptians Have Technology Far Beyond the Current? A Look at the Schist Disk
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Did Ancient Egyptians Have Technology Far Beyond the Current? A Look at the Schist Disk

While modern theorists have designed several engineering scenarios to explain how the Egyptians may have accomplished such incredible feats as the construction of the pyramids and the Great Sphinx, for example, other accomplishments remain within the realm of, “How could they possibly have conceived and accomplished that?” Case in point, the so-called “Schist Disk.”

Since first encountered by westerners, the pyramids of Egypt seemed to many to be far beyond the technological and engineering capabilities of such a “primitive” and “less advanced” culture.

In recent years, this belief has led to a growing number who support the assumption that the ancient Egyptians must have been provided advanced technological knowledge via aliens from beyond our solar system.

While this assertion lacks any credibility with the modern scientific community, there can be no denying that the Egyptians did succeed in technological accomplishments that should have been beyond their abilities--according to our modern worldview.

Although  modern theorists have offered several engineering scenarios to explain how the Egyptians may have accomplished such incredible feats as the construction of the pyramids and the Great Sphinx, for example, other extraordinary accomplishments remain within the realm of, “How could they possibly have conceived and accomplished that?”

Case in point, the so-called “Schist Disk.”

Discovered by Egyptologist Brian Walter Emery in 1936 at Saqqara (or Sakkara), located at the entrance of the Nile Delta and just west of Memphis, the Schist Disk was uncovered while excavating the tomb of Prince Sabu, the son of Adjuib Pharaoh, governor of the First Dynasty (circa 3,000 BCE).

While uncovering numerous funerary objects from the site, Emery’s attention was drawn to an object that he initially defined in his report, the Great Tombs of the I Dynasty, as "a container in the form of a schist bowl.”

Schists, derived from the Greek word σχ?ζειν meaning "to split,” (referring to the ease with which this material can be split along the lateral plane in which the platy minerals lie), are a category of medium-grade metamorphic rocks notable for the preponderance of what are termed “lamellar” minerals such as micas, chlorite, talc, hornblende, and graphite.

Derived from clays and muds which have passed through a series of metamorphic processes (involving the production of shales, slates, and phyllites during the intermediate steps), most schists are mica, but graphite and chlorite are also widely found. Schist is characteristically foliated, meaning the individual mineral grains split off easily into flakes or slabs.

Approximately 61 cm in diameter (24 inches), one cm thick, and 10.6 cm (4.2 inches) in the center, the Schist Disk was crafted by an unknown method from this very fragile and delicate material--the production of which would confound many artists even today.

Resembling a plate or a concave steering wheel of a car, it has three cuts or curved "shovels" that resemble the helix of a boat, and in the center is an opening with a rim that seems to act as the outside receiver of some axis of a wheel or some other unknown mechanism; conceivably, a central hub designed to fit onto a pole.

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Housed in the first wing of the Egyptian Museum of Cairo, the Disk is currently labeled  an “incense container,” although there is no evidence--or consensus--whatsoever to support this assertion.  What is certain, however, is that by this early time in history, stone carving was apparently a sophisticated skill, far beyond what had ever been imagined.

While most every archaeologist feels compelled to offer an opinion as to what purpose the Disk served, its futuristic design continues to baffle any Egyptologist who has had the opportunity to study it at any length. Thus, a satisfactory explanation has yet to be provided.

Adding to the mystery (and alien-related supposition) is the well documented belief that the introduction of the wheel in Egypt didn’t occur until the invasion of the Asiatic group known as the Hyksos at the end of the Middle Kingdom, around 1640 BCE. They used it on a number of mechanisms, but primarily on their military chariots.

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Thus, the questions that arise are: If the Schist Disk is not a wheel, nor modeled after a wheel, what is it?

How could a culture who typically used chisels to shape rock have mastered a technique to work such a delicate material to this extraordinary level?

And perhaps most importantly, why would they invest the time and skills needed to create this object unless it served a very important, specific purpose?

Be that as it may, the Schist Disk, which has been dated to at least 3000 BCE, continues to constitute one of the most perplexing Egyptian and ancient mysteries, providing fodder for all those who refuse to believe that such an advanced piece of technology could have been conceived and created by such an ancient culture--without celestial help.

References:

Unforbidden-geology.com

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/esp_egipto_mist_2c.htm

http://www.s8int.com/phile/page52.html

http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/html/british_museum_index.html

http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/index.htm

http://www.egyptology.nl/links/links8.html

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egyptxtremasonry.htm

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egypt.htm (cool site)

Images via wikipedia.org unless credited otherwise (with my sincere gratitude)

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Comments (26)

Great read, and very well-researched. Isn't Egypt where they found the cave drawings that looked like modern-day helicopters?

Yep, you're right, Stacy. It's actually a glyph in the shape of a copter, over a doorway.

Frisbee!

If this thing could fly, that would really be scary!

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Very interesting.

Very interesting indeed. Reminds me of the film Stargate.

I believe that the Egyptians were more advance in technology than of the modern world.

My first thought was that this was like a Frizzbee, a throwing object

Amazing piece of work. Great job.

farang

Stacy: I think they aren't termed "caves", ya know?

Very curious...and what the heck it could have been attached to is beyond me. Certainly, the hub is fit to attach to a powershaft of some sort...powered by what, I have no idea.

Thanks for this, never heard of it before.

Amira

I am appalled that some Egyptologists and other people are saying that the Ancient Egyptians, who were black, may have acquired their technology from Alien beings from another planet. I don't hear this being said about other ancient civilizations who were white such as Ancient Greeks and Romans. I'm said to say that racism is involved here. What has been hidden from centuries from the people of modern day civilization is that the Ancient Egyptians were more technologically advanced than what Egyptologists want us to believe. In fact, in some instances, they were way more advanced that us in terms of technology, especially since a lot of our technology came from them. For example, the Ancient Egyptians had batteries called Djeds, so they were well aware of electricity and used it to light their houses, temples, lighthouses, etc. Just do your research people!

Thanks for the contribution, Amira. Professional archaeologists, like myself, are quite aware of ancient Egypt's contributuion to culture and humanity.

jo mamma

morons post here.

Thanks for the information.

Hope you found it interesting or insightful, Norita.

Phillip Rommel

I wonder if anyone attempted to replicate it using strong and light materials and see what happens when you rotate them. How fast would they have to spin to have an effect? The Egyptians might not have had the materials to literally replicate it and it may well have been scaled down somewhat. The disks could be used to push or pull and even steer if the angle is changed during fast rotation. If one could spin fast enough to give it lift, then perhaps we can attempt to create like a remote controlled spinning disc of this configuration and see if it has any aerodynamic advantages. Perhaps this Disk was a depiction by the Egyptians of a super-sized version (but how would we know?), and then perhaps the entire outside spins powered by something close to its centre while the middle does not spin and that is where beings could be inside free from getting dizzy! Who knows, if there was alien influence during those periods, then perhaps the making of the Schist Disk was an important and justified piece to spend time and effort to make. I might have completely lost the plot here, but either way, I enjoyed reading about it, so thanks for the information.

I'm glad it sparked your creative interests, Phillip. The major problem seems to be that virtually no one is permitted physical access to these artifacts. Thus, no way to test-drive theories.

Phillip Rommel

I like to think that as has been done recently with the Dead Sea Scrolls, all such artefacts should be accurately documented and details placed available to all of us online. In this day and age we should allow everyone to share and study such historical pieces. More minds, more ideas, more discoveries.

Phillip Rommel

I like to think that as has been done recently with the Dead Sea Scrolls, all such artefacts should be accurately documented and details placed available to all of us online. In this day and age we should allow everyone to share and study such historical pieces. More minds, more ideas, more discoveries.

Phillip Rommel

I like to think that as has been done recently with the Dead Sea Scrolls, all such artefacts should be accurately documented and details placed available to all of us online. In this day and age we should allow everyone to share and study such historical pieces. More minds, more ideas, more discoveries.

Phillip Rommel

Sorry about the duplicated posts.

Todd

Could this be a spinning guide to make rope?

Notice how it says archaeologists and egyptologists are speculating about what it is. As if they have any knowledge of machine parts. [rolls eyes] So, Yes, Philip has the right idea here. This object needs to be manufactured using metal or some other easy to manipulate material and test driven. But, James, access to the object is not necessary. All one has to do is eyeball what is right there and do the best they can and keep playing with it until it does something. 

I showed this picture to my b/f (who prolly has Aspergers and can remember what every single part to every single engine he has ever worked on looks like and what their part numbers are) and he says that it looks like an "impeller". He used to fix his own jet-skis when they broke. I ran a simple Google on "impellers" and found out they are used in turbine engines. They "pull" flow instead of push, and can be used to direct air or water or whatever material can flow. Here is a link to a manufacturer in India with a picture of one that has a similar appearance: 

http://www.dispersers.in/impellers.htm

The irony is that in my thinking, the s.d. may even be a better design, but I can't know this without being able to manufacture and test it myself. 

I discovered another possible/probable use at this site: 

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html

This Swiss guy needs to look at the s.d. as well as impeller manufacturers, not archaeologists and egyptologists. I'm going to email him with all this. 

Could we please move beyond being mere consumers of "Wow!-phenomena" and forward towards change agents? Thank you. 

~J

Notice how it says archaeologists and egyptologists are speculating about what it is. As if they have any knowledge of machine parts. [rolls eyes] So, Yes, Philip has the right idea here. This object needs to be manufactured using metal or some other easy to manipulate material and test driven. But, James, access to the object is not necessary. All one has to do is eyeball what is right there and do the best they can and keep playing with it until it does something. 

I showed this picture to my b/f (who prolly has Aspergers and can remember what every single part to every single engine he has ever worked on looks like and what their part numbers are) and he says that it looks like an "impeller". He used to fix his own jet-skis when they broke. I ran a simple Google on "impellers" and found out they are used in turbine engines. They "pull" flow instead of push, and can be used to direct air or water or whatever material can flow. Here is a link to a manufacturer in India with a picture of one that has a similar appearance with the "fins" on the rim instead of the axis: 

http://www.dispersers.in/impellers.htm

The irony is that in my thinking, the s.d. may even be a better design, but I can't know this without being able to manufacture and test it myself. 

I discovered another possible/probable use at this site: 

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html

This Swiss guy needs to look at the s.d. as well as impeller manufacturers, not archaeologists and egyptologists. I'm going to email him with all this. 

Could we please move beyond being mere consumers of "Wow!-phenomena" and forward towards change agents? Thank you. 

~J

Thanks to Jennifer for her comment and for alerting me to the article. 

Here is what the wheel discovered in Egypt reminds me of. Admittedly this is purely speculative, but I believe it may have some merit...I am reminded of 

a video I recently saw, which is about Coral Castle and the guy who constructed it. Let me see if I can find it again in my browser history... to give you the link. Well, I can't find it any more. It was probably on a facebook page and I followed the link or saw the video right there.    The story is this: Leedskalnin, the guy who built coral castle out of huge blocks of coral rock moved all those blocks by himself and out of sight of others ... during the night. Leedskalnin had a big block and tackle arrangement, but those rocks needed something more to be moved. The maker of the video (might have been Bruce Cathie?) argued that Leedskalnin had found a way of reversing gravity. From clues of material available at the site of the castle, he deducts that there was a frequency generator, a wheel with incorporated magnets, that could have been spun up by a motor, and there was a way to connect that frequency generated through a cable with the block and tackle lifting gear.   

As the story goes, there may be a certain frequency that can be used to reverse gravity (or rather nullify gravity) in a local setting. Reading the article about the find in Egypt and the reference to unknown means of constructing the pyramids, it would seem plausible to me that both Leedskalnin and the ancient Egyptian priests had somehow acquired the same kind of knowledge about a certain frequency, and have used it to their advantage, moving huge stones into position.

Both Coral Castle and the Giza pyramids seem to be located at a point where earth's magnetic grid lines cross making a strong magnetic field that could be needed to do that kind of work.   

Now if Leedskalnin produced that frequency with a wheel with incorporated magnets, who is to say that the ancient Egyptians could not have produced that kind of frequency with a "wheel" made of diamagnetic material (schist rock) carved out in a perfect pattern that can be rotated. The Egyptian artifact has a central hole that would accomodate an axle, a rod that could turn the wheel, and it has three spokes, or subdivisions between no material and material, meaning if it is rotated, it could conceivably produce an (electro)magnetic field alternating at a certain frequency. The concept of an impeller (a piece that is used to create suction or a vortex) isn't that far off either. Perhaps that is how the frequency links to the magnetic field of the earth and of a piece of material close by.   

The secret of anti-gravity? Perhaps. Apparently experimenting with such stuff isn't really good for your health, meaning it may attract the attention of people who do know what the frequency means and who don't exactly want others to have that technology at their disposal.   

Oh yes, although I can't right now find that video about Coral Castle that I saw a few days ago, I found a site that shows the "frequency generator" found in Leedskalnin's workshop and that goes into the fact that Leedskalnin was talking about magnetism being able to reverse gravity...  

http://www.labyrinthina.com/coral.htm

the Schist Disk, is some sort of a propeller; either for submersibles or to be fitted with blades of some sort for, wind mill of sorts, or flight, even
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